The DeKalb County Forest Preserve District Committee met Tuesday, June 20,
2006 at the Russell Woods Natural Resource Center at 6:00 p.m. In attendance
were committee members Ms. Fauci, Mr. Gudmunson, Mr. Anderson, Ms. Turner,
Mr. Lyle and staff member Peggy Doty. Mr. Rosemier was absent. Guests
included Greg Milburg and Craig Hubert.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES Ms. Fauci asked if there were any additions
or corrections to the minutes of May 16, 2006. Hearing none, Mr. Anderson
moved to approve the minutes, seconded by Mr. Gudmunson and the motion
passed unanimously.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA Ms. Fauci noted that there might need to be
some flexibility in the portion of the agenda related to the Forest Preserve
monthly reports and general discussion due to the fact that Superintendent
Hannan could not be with the committee this evening due to a
hospitalization. She noted that she would do her best to fill in as she
could. Mr. Lyle moved to approve the agenda, seconded by Ms. Turner and the
motion passed unanimously.
CDH CORPORATION – GUEST SPEAKER
Ms. Fauci introduced Craig Hubert of the CDH Corporation who is the
committee’s second speaker on land acquisition negotiations. Mr. Hubert
passed out his cards to the committee members and then began a brief
overview of his past history and experiences.
He noted that he had graduated in the 1970’s from the University of
Illinois with an interest in Parks and Recreation. To this end, he took a
position as the first director of a newly formed Park District in West
Chicago. He commented that when he arrived the District had no programming,
no staff and no experience with land acquisition and had only been
functioning for one year. From this experience he learned quickly how to
seek grants and loans and how to build a successful acquisition program.
Following his graduate work at Western Illinois University, he then went on
to work with the Forest Preserve District of DuPage County. At this time,
the FP there was experiencing great difficulties with flooding and
determined that the preservation and control of lands would be vital to
ameliorate the flooding situations. At this time, the District was able to
attain $100,000,000.00 in non-referendum bonds to begin to address the
situation and he, as assistant to the Executive Director, was tapped to
coordinate their acquisition program. Since their Finance committee also
served as their land acquisition committee, he took the chairman’s position
and the committee and staff developed an evaluation system to determine the
value of lands to be acquired. Mr. Hubert commented that many of the
criteria they utilized were the same criteria he had seen in the document
from DeKalb County. He noted that it is critical to have an objective tool,
such as apriority list, to be able to perform a basically subjective process
successfully.
After 8 years with DuPage County, he then moved to head the McHenry
County Conservation District. Again, due to rapid growth, he was thrust into
land acquisition duties. After leaving McHenry, he founded his own land
acquisition consultation firm.
He noted that he had recently been given the opportunity to be one of
three companies working with Will County on a large acquisition project. He
believes he was selected due to his record with DuPage and McHenry. At
DuPage, 5000 acres were added during his time and 10,000 to 20,000 to
McHenry during his 9 years there.
Mr. Hubert noted that in all of his previous positions, one of his most
critical duties was to be the liaison with elected officials. He believes
this could be very useful to DeKalb at this time. He commented that in his
work, he has been involved in every aspect of the process, from title
searches, to survey work to the closings themselves.
His current work with Will County casts him in the role solely as a
negotiation specialist with other Will County staff handling the majority of
the research and paperwork.
Mr. Hubert then asked to see the ballot language used for the recently
successful referendum, and after reviewing it commented that if he were
correct, there would be approximately $500,000.00 per year over a 10-year
period available for the project rather than any large amounts of cash
immediately available. He noted that from a preliminary standpoint, that
would likely mean that the District would be seeking OSLAD grants or other
matching funds. He commented that working with local legislators to acquire
funding from the State and Federal levels would also be critical.
Ms. Fauci noted that the Committee was adamant that they wished to sunset
the referendum in 10 years and so as much as they could with the funds
generated during that time. Mr. Hubert asked if saving farmland was a
critical point for the committee. Ms. Fauci replied that while it was not
their sole nor original intention, there was certainly willingness to do as
much preservation as possible within the other stated District goals.
Mr. Hubert noted that in cases where a District wishes to acquire land
that is currently being farmed, many times they will acquire the land and
then lease it back to the original owner in either a life estate or other
defined way. He noted that in this case there is not only the benefit f
acquiring the land at a competitive rate, but there is revenue potential as
well.
Mr. Anderson asked Mr. Hubert what his rates would be for his services.
Mr. Hubert replied that he generally charges $120 per hour. His current work
with Will County is running approximately 8 to 10 hours per week, but noted
that this was primarily due to how much of the work was being performed by
other County staff. He noted that the work currently has him working on only
4 projects and negotiating with approximately 20 to 22 owners.
Mr. Anderson noted that DeKalb would not have anywhere near the beginning
operating capital that Will County has. Mr. Hubert noted that the costs
often rely on how much of the work can be performed by other professional
staff. If they can handle the majority of the grant paperwork and processes,
he could concentrate on working with legislators and on helping the District
avoid pitfalls regarding contributions, legalities, etc.
Ms. Fauci noted that there could be some money available through Wetland
Bank activities. She noted that these funds were recently used to assist in
paying back the County loan for Potawatomi Woods.
Mr. Hubert commented that they could also issue 2.3% of the County
assessed value in debt. Contracts would then be utilized to stretch out the
payments. However, he noted that a great deal depended on the seller’s
willingness to wait for full payments.
Ms. Fauci commented that the last speaker on this topic had touched on
the principle of life estate. Mr. Hubert noted that these can be very useful
if negotiated at the onset. Ms. Fauci noted that Mr. Hannan could be very
helpful on several of the necessary fronts, but that it would probably not
be possible for him to balance all the staffing needs and maximize each deal
to its full potential in addition to maintaining his regular duties.
Mr. Hubert noted that the Committee had some time to consider this as
there would not be a first inflow of cash until the next tax year (as the
referendum was written). Ms. Fauci asked what the rate for available land
would have to get to before acquisition would be harmed.
Mr. Hubert commented that in DuPage, they really came into the process
playing catch-up due to the rapid growth and inflation in the land prices.
He noted that Kane County found themselves in a similar position. He
commented that a County must have a clear goal regarding what it wants to
accomplish with these activities. For instance, he noted that while at
McHenry, they wanted to keep the acres per capita levels they began with as
growth occurred. DuPage began by recognizing that their 25 acres of
preserved land per 1000 residents was critically low. Mr. Hubert noted that
DeKalb was currently running at about 10 acres per 1000.
Mr. Anderson asked how many acres were set aside for Park Districts in
the various communities. Hr. Hubert replied that DuPage has several
districts set up to effectively receive land, while McHenry has very few.
Therefore, McHenry could not maximize on their land/cash donations. He
further commented that it was only in the 1980’s that DuPage passed a
land/cash provision for the Forest Preserve. He noted that several Counties
have this provision allowing land/cash for subdivisions built in
unincorporated areas to flow to the Forest Preserves. He recommended that
DeKalb consider such a provision. Mr. Fauci noted that it has been the
long-standing policy and practice of the County Board to discourage the
building of commercial developments in unincorporated areas, therefore the
provision might well be moot.
Ms. Doty commented that Sycamore Park District has a land/cash provision,
even if the City of Sycamore does not.
Mr. Hubert noted that despite the long standing practice there would
likely come a time when the County would have to allow development in
unincorporated areas.
Mr. Anderson asked if it were true that when seeking grants form the
State the District could not receive matching funds for lands it had
outright purchased. Mr. Hubert said that was frequently correct and noted
that OSLAD does prohibit purchase before grant approval. He noted that one
could work with a community foundation or land preservation foundation to
hold the land for the District. In the past, he had worked with the Land
Conservation Foundation in DuPage, but had also set up foundations for this
purpose. He noted that another advantage of a Foundation is that it could
often be used to broker off land that the District did not wish to retain.
He noted that while there were some grants who did not prohibit ownership
prior to granting, they were quite rare and few in number.
Mr. Gudmunson asked if this was usually a 1:1 match on the part of the
granting agency. Mr. Hubert noted that was the most common and that several
would run 60 to 90 days to provide the grant funds. Though he commented that
such delays could be lessened if the district could utilize the political
clout of its area legislators and others.
Ms. Fauci noted that it was the Committee’s understanding that most
foundations would charge some small fee for holding the land. Mr. Hubert
noted that the fee is generally used to cover the administrative fees of the
organization, and they would always have to be certain beforehand that the
fees were low enough to keep the process viable. He further noted that to
keep a foundation that one had created solvent, one would wither have to
provide support through such fees or develop other ways of keeping funding
flowing in. In the case of the Foundation he had assisted in creating, they
began with a $10,000,000.00 bequest. However, he commented that
funding could also be obtained by flipping less desirable land.
Mr. Hubert noted that Nancy Williamson, now with the Illinois Department
of Natural Resources was the president of his foundation. He noted that
these sorts of past relationships could be very beneficial to the County.
Ms. Fauci asked if it were common practice to have consultants sit with
and advise the Committee if they were to go into Executive Session to
discuss an acquisition. Mr. Hubert noted that any staff can be present as
long as the proper notification has been provided to the public.
Ms. Fauci and the Committee then thanked Mr. Hubert for his very thorough
presentation.
TRUCK BID OPENING
Ms. Fauci noted that a bid had recently been posted for the acquisition
of a new truck. However, as of the meeting time, no bids had been received
from local vendors. The speculation was that since the County participates
in a pool bid process supported by the State’s Central Management Services
(CMS) that many local individuals know they cannot compete with the State
and become discouraged from bidding.
Ms. Fauci noted that the existing truck, a 2001 GMC with over 100,000
miles, would be placed for auction by the County through the Highway
Department.
Ms. Turner moved to approve the lowest bid received pending review and
agreement by the Superintendent, seconded by Mr. Anderson.
Following extensive discussion regarding the need for the truck, the
level of the available budget as well as the CMS bid process, Ms. Turner
withdrew her original motion and Mr. Anderson withdrew his second.
Ms. Turner then moved to table the issue until the next regular meeting
of the Forest Preserve District, seconded by Mr. Lyle, and the motion passed
unanimously.
GENERAL DISCUSSION
Ms. Fauci reported that the District had recently received a Wetlands
Mitigation check for ¾ of an acre of wetland. She would have the actual
dollar figure at the next meeting.
She then apprised the Committee of the current health situation of the
Superintendent and the members expressed their sincere wishes for a speedy
and full recovery.
Ms. Fauci then reported that there had been a recent problem with bats at
the MacQueen cabins. The bats had been spotted at the cabins by a group of
local boy scouts during a stay. Because of the issue of rabies in the bat
community, the County Health Department, Animal Control and the District
staff moved swiftly and cooperatively to address the problem. Staff and
Animal Control worked together to seal the cabins against any future entry
and the Health Department worked with the effected campers.
Ms. Fauci also reported that the staff has the concrete poured at
Potawatomi Woods for the new shelters and work continues on schedule for a
late summer, early fall dedication.
A pit bull was recently dropped off at the Wilkinson Marsh Preserve and
the staff and Animal Control handled that situation as well.
Ms. Fauci then noted to the Committee that she had been approached by the
local press regarding what the County would be doing about the problem of
the Emerald Ash Borer, a pest located recently just 13 miles east of the
County line. She provided the Committee a quick overview of the dangers
presented by this recently arrived, but destructive species and following
extensive discussion, the Committee opted to place a ban on any out of area
firewood being brought into the preserves.
Mr. Anderson moved to formally adopt the prohibition against
outside firewood in the preserves, seconded by Mr. Lyle and the motion
passed unanimously. Ms. Fauci noted that she would direct staff to place
appropriate signage at the preserves entrances and she would work with the
press to get the word out.
Ms. Doty reported that she had recently been the very grateful recipient
of a $4000 grant from the DeKalb Community Foundation and noted that the
funds would be used to improve the facilities at the Natural Resource Center
to expand teaching space, programs for the campers and available office
space for the small staff.
Ms. Turner moved to adjourn, seconded by Mr. Lyle and the motion passed
unanimously.
Respectfully submitted,
Julia Fauci, Chairperson
Forest Preserve District Committee
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